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Post by bp1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:50 am

as long as I have been shooting I struggle with defensive ammo, I don't reload, curious as to what would work better if things went wrong, between 124gr+p hst, to complicate things 147 hst, and gold dots in 147. in test I have seen on the hst penetration is close with the 147 expanding a little more. so do you opt for faster load with high energy release or the 147 with heavier bullet and more exp. I have now eliminated the 147 gold dots for now. :-? .
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Re: need your thoughts

Post by Lthrnck1775 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:02 am

Hornady Critical Defense.... unless you plan to shoot thru steel/windows/block/barriers (ala FBI), then Critical Duty.
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Re: need your thoughts

Post by bp1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:08 am

not trying for a contest but to discuss my post, not trying to be ugly. I am sure CD is good just not mt cup of tea.
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Re: need your thoughts

Post by Tejas Products » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:32 am

Please go to youtube and watch some of Paul Harrel's videos on self defense ammo... You will learn more than you ever wanted to.... He doesn't bother with balistic gel to much, but uses, actual ribs, other animal parts, covered with clothing, etc... He does a great job of going over several different brands of ammo.....
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Post by Lgaam » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:27 pm

2nd for Paul Harrell.

Also, Shooting the Bull's Ammo Quest series on YouTube.

I often find myself leaning to the lighter/faster side of the equation. The slightly higher velocity of the 124gr gives a bigger envelope for the round to expand.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:40 pm

Lgaam wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:27 pm
2nd for Paul Harrell.

Also, Shooting the Bull's Ammo Quest series on YouTube.

I often find myself leaning to the lighter/faster side of the equation. The slightly higher velocity of the 124gr gives a bigger envelope for the round to expand.
Same here dont carry hst but they are 124+p
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Re: need your thoughts

Post by bp1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:51 pm

just curious squid what do you shoot.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:05 pm

bp1 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:51 pm
just curious squid what do you shoot.
I'm running Hornady XTP's. Use them loaded on the hot side in the .380 as well.
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Re: need your thoughts

Post by Janik » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:57 pm

I've been sticking with HST or GD 124gr for full size guns and 115gr for sub compacts. I'm definitely no ballistics expert, but this is based on info I've researched over the years. YMMV
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Post by LucaBrasi » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:02 pm

+1 on the Paul Harrell vids.

I also find this to be an excellent resource:

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-d ... tic-tests/

Detailed test results, photos, vids, sortable tables. It's a great place to find info on lots of specific ammo types.
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