Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

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Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by qballbandit » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:29 pm

Evening folks,
Looking to purchase my first holster so I can start practicing and become comfortable with drawing a shooting during dry fire practice. (looking to take CCW sometime in spring or early summer).
I am not sure where my comfort lies yet, IWB or OWB, so have been paying close attention to all threads here holster related, in particular holsters that can be used both ways.
One question comes to mind - are there specific things I should look for in a carry/self-defense holster vs. a competition holster? My focus is purely self-defense shooting so want to educate myself on the important needs for this type of holster.

Thanks for any insight, it's much appreciated! :smile:

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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by Janik » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:41 pm

I'm not much of a competitor yet, so most my holsters are for CCW. Though I do now have two holsters for competition, though one of them also serves as an OWB holster. When it comes to competition, it depends on what you're shooting, such as USPSA, IDPA, 3gun, etc., and that will play a part in which holster you get. For USPSA, I went with this one from SMC. https://smokymtnconcealment.com/collect ... on-holster

I'm currently looking at a Clinger Wonder holster for IWB, and purchasing the additional clips so it can also be used OWB. https://clingerholsters.com/product/v3- ... r-holster/

There's a variety of holsters out there, both kydex and leather. Knowing how you intend to carry the gun will help in your holster selection. I haven't tried the Clinger yet, but it seems to get a lot of positive feedback, and they say it does help conceal the grip very well.
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by LEOJIM » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:07 am

I'm not going to do any competition shouting or carry my SFX as a EDC. It will be just a range gun, so I would like a lower riding holder, almost cowboy style.
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by GlennSFX » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:25 am

LEOJIM wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:07 am
I would like a lower riding holder, almost cowboy style.

All you need is a holster hanger like the Boss that will let you drop the position of where the holster is mounted. It's really a competition hanger but obviously can be used for range use. You'd want to get a Tek-Lok so the hanger can be easily attached and removed from your belt. The Boss hanger is typically mounted to a competition rig and stays there.

https://blade-tech.com/products/attachments

https://benstoegerproshop.com/bsps-boss ... ount-only/

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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by GlennSFX » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:59 am

qballbandit wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:29 pm
Evening folks,
Looking to purchase my first holster so I can start practicing and become comfortable with drawing a shooting during dry fire practice. (looking to take CCW sometime in spring or early summer).
I am not sure where my comfort lies yet, IWB or OWB, so have been paying close attention to all threads here holster related, in particular holsters that can be used both ways.
One question comes to mind - are there specific things I should look for in a carry/self-defense holster vs. a competition holster? My focus is purely self-defense shooting so want to educate myself on the important needs for this type of holster.

Thanks for any insight, it's much appreciated! :smile:

Neil 8-)
When starting out it is safer and makes sense to begin with a OWB holster. It's all about developing proper technique and safely handling the gun. Become proficient OWB then transition to IWB. IWB holsters involves positioning the gun properly (cant) depending upon where it is being carried. This is to make the draw process as efficient as possible. With IWB you'll also be dealing with concealment. IWB drawing will involve clearing cover garments which introduces another element into the draw, and can create safety issues when reholstering. There's plenty of discussions of clothing causing accidental discharges.

SIG Academy discussing basing holster draw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-_AADQ-Uo

Police chief shoots self...Accidental Discharge due to clothing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrJMQupYxaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7SWx3znXTI
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by higgybaby » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:05 am

I agree with Glen......go OWB first.
I can not speak to comp shooting, but SD carry I can. I will say this- the bigger the gun- the bigger the problem with IWB. I understand that "some" folks can carry a cannon in their pants- but most folks can not.

I highly recommend the MDJ Hybrid leather backed kydex OWB holster- I have 4. One of the best bangs for the buck out there.
They are economical ~ $40, and they wear comfortably. IMO- that is the best place to start. If it turns out that you want something else later?....at least you haven't spent near $100!
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Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:54 am

Also take a look at Alien Gear holsters. I have an OWB for 4 different models of guns. That is what I wear most all of the time.

I agree with the OWB vice IWB as a starter and, unless you are drawing from the holster at the range, practice with what you will wear. A manual of arms is just as important with a holster as it is with a firearm.
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by qballbandit » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:37 pm

I appreciate the great feedback, guys. Gives me a solid starting point.
Many thanks!

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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by smokee » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:23 am

Very good advice so far about starting out with an OWB holster and clothing issues to pay attention to.

Remember to slow down and pay very close attention to finger off the trigger and no clothing interference when reholstering. That is the time that bad things can happen to the inattentive.
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by Tejas Products » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:21 am

LT USN (Ret.) wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:54 am
Also take a look at Alien Gear holsters. I have an OWB for 4 different models of guns. That is what I wear most all of the time.

I agree with the OWB vice IWB as a starter and, unless you are drawing from the holster at the range, practice with what you will wear. A manual of arms is just as important with a holster as it is with a firearm.
As with LT, I have the Alien Gear shape shift system, It allows me to switch between, 2 types of OWB, IWB, Appendix Carry as well. And it's a lot cheaper if you decide to switch guns...
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by ranebowcyxx » Tue May 14, 2019 12:14 pm

I too have Alien gear, the IWB for my CCP is very comfortable and use their OWB as well. Just received a new shell for the Canik but did not specify the SFx. It will fit an elite though. I like just being able to order a shell for different guns
I have tried a couple of different holsters, the Alien Gear works for my body. Just make sure it is comfortable so you dont fidget.
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by colonel00 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:53 pm

ranebowcyxx wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 12:14 pm
I too have Alien gear, the IWB for my CCP is very comfortable and use their OWB as well. Just received a new shell for the Canik but did not specify the SFx. It will fit an elite though. I like just being able to order a shell for different guns
I have tried a couple of different holsters, the Alien Gear works for my body. Just make sure it is comfortable so you dont fidget.
They have Shape Shift shells for Canik now? I'm not seeing them listed on their site. All I see is standard holsters for the SA but nothing regarding the Shape Shift.
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by ranebowcyxx » Tue May 14, 2019 8:38 pm

colonel00 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:53 pm
ranebowcyxx wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 12:14 pm
I too have Alien gear, the IWB for my CCP is very comfortable and use their OWB as well. Just received a new shell for the Canik but did not specify the SFx. It will fit an elite though. I like just being able to order a shell for different guns
I have tried a couple of different holsters, the Alien Gear works for my body. Just make sure it is comfortable so you dont fidget.
They have Shape Shift shells for Canik now? I'm not seeing them listed on their site. All I see is standard holsters for the SA but nothing regarding the Shape Shift.
They I have the Cloak Mod 4.0 that is what I have
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Re: Holster Question: Self-Defense vs. Competition

Post by colonel00 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:57 pm

Ok, so not the ShapeShift system where you order different shells then. You just got an OWB holster. I still don't see a Cloak Mod 4.0 (the 4.0 is the ShapeShift as far as I understand it) but whatever. Hopefully they will come out with ShapeShift stuff soon.
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