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Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds - Solved!

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:24 pm
by CiggyTardust
Took my new TP9SFX out to the range for the first time today. It was a Christmas present and I'd been wanting the gun for years. I left the range pretty disappointed with the gun. Why?

1) The slide failed to lock back at the end of every single magazine (approximately 6-7 total). I only loaded 10-15 rounds per magazine, so not full capacity. Does this matter?

2) Approximately 1-2 failures to fire every magazine. Live round in chamber, pulled trigger, striker clicked and no boom. I did check one round and I couldn't see any distinct dimple from a light primer strike (comparing to other light primer strikes in a Google Image search), but not 100% sure on that. Re-chambered round and it shot fine after that.

I was shooting Sellier & Bellot 115gr ammo. Never had this issue with any other handgun... Glock, Beretta, M&P Shields, my dad's TP9SF all ran flawlessly without issue. Not a good feeling when it's your first time out.

Could this in any way be user error? I tried to make sure I wasn't riding the slide. Trigger reset was a little tricky for me, not sure if I wasn't letting it reset all the way? I will say I neglected to clean the gun before taking it out but I didn't think that would matter. Should I just reach out to Century? Don't wanna deal with the hassle of diagnosing and troubleshooting or even sending it back for a few months. This is a brand new gun and Christmas present after all! Thanks for any info you can provide.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:34 pm
by sgschwend
Assuming the gun is good:
On my gun, if the slide is held back a fraction of an inch it will not strike. I found this when I ended up with some out of spec ammo, I ended gauging those rounds and found the gun could handle even out of spec ammo, but not all of them. I know this is a rare occurrence but that is my experience.

For failure to lock: Do you have more than one mag? Does this issue occur with every mag?

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:41 pm
by higgybaby
This is unusual for sure.....but me thinks an email to Century will get you a free shipping label.
Make record of the malfunctions and notify Century- they will fix it.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:52 pm
by ncjw
In my review of the SFx I tested the claim that it was range ready out of the box. It isn't. Clean and lube it and as many, many people have stated here, put a few boxes of 124 NATO through it as well (if 124 NATO isn't handy, any 124 is better than any 115 to start - I don't even bother with 115's any more). Alternatively or additionally, lock the slide back for a few days to help condition the RSA.

With a couple rounds in the mag, shoot one handed. If the slide locks back then you are riding the slide.

We need a "New Canik Break In" sticky.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:11 pm
by colonel00
A lot of times people with higher grips with their support hand will accidentally ride the slide release and the slide won't lock back. Put a round or two in each magazine and shoot one handed making sure nothing is touching the slide release. Also, with an empty magazine in the gun, does the slide lock back every time just cycling it at home?

As far as it not firing, again, if you are shooting with a high support hand, you could be putting friction on the slide and keeping it out of battery. Not likely but perhaps.

Another suggestion would be to pick up a few boxes of Winchster 124gr NATO rounds. These guns have a stiff spring and are designed to shoot NATO loads. It is often suggested to break in new Caniks with these hotter rounds.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:12 pm
by TL1000RSquid
S&B is usually pretty good stuff, I've got a few cases here never given me any trouble before. Is the slide going all the way forward? Happening with multiple different mags? If yes would try different batch of ammo. Before next range trip would clean it and inspect striker assembly. If after all that still giving trouble contact Century. As far as not locking back is it possible your riding the slide lock?

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:46 pm
by keltex78
Clean it, lube it, and shoot a couple of boxes of NATO 124. My SFx was just like yours when new. A box or two of WWB 124 NATO later, it shoots great. Shoots cheap 115 bulk pack great, with no more failures.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:57 pm
by RAP
I have 2 TP9SFx. First one I cleaned and lubed her up and shot some 115 grain ammo (don’t remember what it was) and my slide would not lock back. However, after a few hundred rounds the slide would lock back. These guns are designed for NATO ammo and are way over sprung for majority of “civilian” made ammo. The factory recoil spring is strong enough to launch a compact car into orbit!

Since I use these guns for USPSA competitions, my second was re sprung before I ever shot it. I replaced the factory recoil spring with sprinco recoil management system and put a 29 newton (6.5 lb) striker spring along with freedom smith trigger. These are very good guns and this competition season I shot over 12,000 rounds through my first TP9SFx and it’s still going strong.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:44 pm
by LT USN (Ret.)
"this competition season I shot over 12,000 rounds through my first TP9SFx", That's a lot of shooting in a season. Congrats!🇺🇸

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:42 pm
by RAP
Thanks! This year I want to shoot the USPSA Nationals in October. My goal is to shoot 15,000 + rounds before nationals.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:28 pm
by SSGNDoc
Slide not locking back on last round:
-riding the slide lock with thumb in a thumbs forward grip. Overlap your strong hand thumb over your support hand away from the frame. (I’ve experienced problems with slide lock location on Sigs and Caniks).

-Not enough lubrication, or slide rails are fouled.
-Underpowered ammo
-Oversprung recoil spring
-needs break-in

Light primer strikes:
-failure to go fully into battery preventing striker from making good contact with the primer. (Could be consistent with some of the possibilities above for slide lock failure)
-Striker channel is fouled. Disassemble, inspect and clean as required. lubricant is not recommended in the striker channel as it can actually create hydraulic drag and attract and trap more gunk.
-striker itself is damaged. Remove and inspect.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:33 pm
by CiggyTardust
Thanks everyone. Century is sending me a new spring assembly once they arrive from Turkey. I did check to see if the slide locks back when cocking it manually at home with my regular grip and it appears my thumbs-forward grip may have been preventing it from locking back. I'll have to adjust my grip accordingly I guess and head out to the range. I've also cleaned and lubed it up as suggested here.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:57 pm
by sam_826
Thanks for your post @CiggyTardust - wondering if you may have an update? Did you get the part(s) from Century yet?

Asking because I just recently purchased this pistol, and on my first visit to the range experienced exactly as you've described.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:16 pm
by CiggyTardust
Yes I got a spring very quickly from Century... Maybe 10 days and it completely resolved the issue. Had zero malfunctions on my last range trip.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:36 pm
by SSGNDoc
CiggyTardust wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:16 pm
Yes I got a spring very quickly from Century... Maybe 10 days and it completely resolved the issue. Had zero malfunctions on my last range trip.
Glad to hear things are running smoothly for you now.

I can relate to the frustration of having a new pistol and problems in the first outing. Happened to me with a Beretta. I had owned three trouble free Berettas, before my problems with that one. Turned out to be a burr on the extractor hook, but it definitely was a let down on that initial trip. I’ve logged a few thousand trouble free rounds in that pistol since.

Hopefully your SFx experience will be trouble free going forward.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:09 am
by sam_826
I hope I get a response from Century Arms soon. I've emailed and tried calling a few times, but have yet been able to get a live person. If anyone knows a better way other than the contact email/phone number on their website, please share.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:24 pm
by colonel00
sam_826 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:09 am
I hope I get a response from Century Arms soon. I've emailed and tried calling a few times, but have yet been able to get a live person. If anyone knows a better way other than the contact email/phone number on their website, please share.
They can be really slow to respond to emails. I think they only have one person (Robert Pittman) handling Canik stuff or at least that's how it seemed.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:01 pm
by CiggyTardust
They responded to my email after a few days and that was around the holidays. They'll get to you I'm sure. I was very impressed with how quickly the replacement spring arrived at my door.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:03 pm
by GlennSFX
CiggyTardust wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:33 pm
Thanks everyone. Century is sending me a new spring assembly once they arrive from Turkey. I did check to see if the slide locks back when cocking it manually at home with my regular grip and it appears my thumbs-forward grip may have been preventing it from locking back. I'll have to adjust my grip accordingly I guess and head out to the range. I've also cleaned and lubed it up as suggested here.
I had the same issue with my strong hand thumb hitting the release. Took a little time but have adjusted with the thumb riding the support hand thumb knuckle. Problem resolved.

Re: Brand New TP9SFX - A DOZEN malfunctions out of 100 rounds

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:40 am
by sam_826
@CiggyTardust Mathew @ Century did respond to my email yesterday and mentioned similar about using a low force recoil spring assembly. Will post an update with progress...