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PayPal Strikes Again

Post by GallowayPrecision » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:49 am

For those of you that still use PayPal, you should stop immediately. While in the past we were forced to use them on eBay, they shut down our payment processing and seized around $13,000 in our account saying we had violated their Acceptable Use Policy. Here's the thing, nothing we sold on eBay violated that, because well they use the blanket statement "Certain Firearm Accessories and Parts are banned from Sale". Don't tell you what parts, because then they can choose at whim what to shut down a small business for. Held our money for six months, well last week they changed their policy stating they would no longer absorb violation fees that they pay to the U.S. Government. Oh and these "violations" are $2500 a pop. They have NO ACTUAL PAPERWORK on what we violated, and refuse to give us anything. Only $2500 violation I can think of would be ITAR, and we don't ship outside of the US. So they kept our $13,000 dollars saying it was fees for violations, haven't told us what it was nor will tell us, and because of the current political climate we can even get our own Sheriff's Department to file charges. They say somewhere buried in the legalese will be clauses that they can do this. Add in that PayPal is super friendly with our current governor and they are in the same f'ing building as our state Attorney General means that money is gone forever. A few months payroll for one employee gone. Bonuses for employees gone. All highly criminal behavior, but completely legal because our illustrious Government has allowed corporations more rights than actual people. Think we were the only ones? Nope, everyones favorite grip appliqué Tractiongrips, Type 01 FFL Dealer has had their eBay account suspended, and I would guess at this point their account drained as well. Don emailed us this morning with Google Ad Sense terminating his account without ANY PRIOR VIOLATIONS OR REASON, stating it is due to a change in their policies. Wake up people, Big Brother doesn't have to ban shit, they're getting their corporate lackeys to do all the work for them.
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Post by ncjw » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:21 pm

I am more upset that I am not as surprised that this is what our country has come to than I am about the actual situation.

Not that it isn't horrible, it is, but signs have been pointing this way for years now.

Outside of a sympathetic lawyer willing to class action sue (as your loss, though significant, isn't large enough to interest a lawyer), or a pro bono 2A lawyer, you are probably screwed.

The NRA should be all over things like this, but they are a mess themselves right now.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm

I try not to use them but certain occasions its the only choice. ar15.com EE for example, and when i do i try to stick it to them sending it as a gift.
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Post by Tejas Products » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:33 pm

Ebay, PayPal, Many Major Banks, Credit Card processors, All Liberal led institutions that are using their political and communist beliefs to run roughshod over our Constitutional rights.... They think that they are serving themselves by running us out of business, when all they are doing is running us underground....

I have had Ebay suspend and delete my listings 5 times within the past year... Trying to get those MORON'S to understand that I am selling STICKERS AND DECALS.....NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS is like talking to a wall....

As a fellow manufacture and seller of firearm related items, I feel your pain Brother..... And I am sorry......
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Post by LucaBrasi » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:38 pm

Truth is, Big Tech is far more dangerous to our republic that the hated robber barons of the industrial age ever were.
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Post by GallowayPrecision » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:59 pm

Tejas Products wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:33 pm
Ebay, PayPal, Many Major Banks, Credit Card processors, All Liberal led institutions that are using their political and communist beliefs to run roughshod over our Constitutional rights.... They think that they are serving themselves by running us out of business, when all they are doing is running us underground....

I have had Ebay suspend and delete my listings 5 times within the past year... Trying to get those MORON'S to understand that I am selling STICKERS AND DECALS.....NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS is like talking to a wall....

As a fellow manufacture and seller of firearm related items, I feel your pain Brother..... And I am sorry......
Exactly, we don't sell anything that isn't in the Acceptable Use Policy. But the worst part is, today it's us, tomorrow it's private citizens that use their PayPal account to buy something that Big Gov or the idiots that own the company doesn't want you to have. With absolutely no repercussions from doing whatever they want.
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Re: PayPal Strikes Again

Post by 37L1 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:52 pm

TL1000RSquid wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
I try not to use them but certain occasions its the only choice. ar15.com EE for example, and when i do i try to stick it to them sending it as a gift.
How is it sticking it to them when you pay for something through PayPal as a gift? Don't they tack on a fee that you pay?
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Re: PayPal Strikes Again

Post by TL1000RSquid » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:01 pm

37L1 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:52 pm
TL1000RSquid wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
I try not to use them but certain occasions its the only choice. ar15.com EE for example, and when i do i try to stick it to them sending it as a gift.
How is it sticking it to them when you pay for something through PayPal as a gift? Don't they tack on a fee that you pay?
No sending money as a gift they dont tack on usual % fee.
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Post by zeda3000 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Paypal bann 2 years ago in Turkey , cause they refuse to pay tax in Turkey. Monopolly isnt good for bussiness.
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Post by runeight » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:36 am

And I thought the IRS has to much power. Now this?
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Re: PayPal Strikes Again

Post by 37L1 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:07 am

TL1000RSquid wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:01 pm
37L1 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:52 pm
TL1000RSquid wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
I try not to use them but certain occasions its the only choice. ar15.com EE for example, and when i do i try to stick it to them sending it as a gift.
How is it sticking it to them when you pay for something through PayPal as a gift? Don't they tack on a fee that you pay?
No sending money as a gift they dont tack on usual % fee.
FF? Yes, they do. And you pay it if you are buying, not the seller.

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

Sending money to friends and family.

We’ll always post the current fees for sending money to friends and family on this page, and we will disclose the fees to you in advance each time you initiate a transaction to send money to a friend or family member. These fees may change from time to time, and most changes to these fees will be deemed effective at the time and date of posting. If these fees ever increase, we will provide advance notice on our Policy Updates page. You must have or open a PayPal account to send or receive money.
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Post by colonel00 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:31 pm

Hmm, is that new? I've never seen fees for sending money with friends and family. I send $50 and the other person gets $50.

Also, unless something has changed, it's the seller that loses money on a purchase transaction. The buyer sends $50 and the seller only receives $48 or whatever.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:44 pm

Yeah that must be new, but its been atleast 6 months since I last used paypal.
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Post by 37L1 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:51 pm

colonel00 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:31 pm
Hmm, is that new? I've never seen fees for sending money with friends and family. I send $50 and the other person gets $50.

Also, unless something has changed, it's the seller that loses money on a purchase transaction. The buyer sends $50 and the seller only receives $48 or whatever.
Selling is 2.9% + $0.30 per sale.

FF is the same only the buyer pays the fees instead of the seller.
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Post by colonel00 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:05 pm

37L1 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:51 pm

Selling is 2.9% + $0.30 per sale.

FF is the same only the buyer pays the fees instead of the seller.
Well, not exactly. I can still send money via FF with no fees on either end.
Sending in the U.S.
If you are a U.S. PayPal account holder sending money to a friend or family member who uses PayPal in the U.S., you may pay a fee, depending on how you pay.

Payment method: Fees:
Funded by your PayPal Cash or PayPal Cash Plus balance or a bank account linked to PayPal. Fee is waived.
Funded by a credit card, debit card or PayPal Credit. 2.9% of the amount funded this way, plus a fixed fee (from the table below) based on the currency of the transaction.
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Post by 37L1 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:44 pm

You can have your bank account linked to PayPal. I'd rather pay the fee if I have to use PayPal at all.
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Post by GallowayPrecision » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:24 am

Note: I didn't pick the thumbnail that makes me look like I'm pushing a hard poo, youtube did. But this is a better explanation of everything that happened.
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