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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by ncjw » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:07 pm

1. Please provide the links or model numbers for those cool Pelican and Pelican clone cases discussed above.

2. One of the most interesting things that I ever learned was that the planets do NOT orbit the Sun. They orbit the center of gravity of the solar system. Depending on where they and the Sun are, it might be within the volume of the Sun, but more often than not they orbit a point in space outside of the Sun.

This is a really handy example of "everybody knows" XYZ. Just counter, well, everyone knows that the planets orbit the Sun, but they don't.
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Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:26 pm

The one I did was a Pelican 1550 with foam kit.

FOAM LAYERS: Layer 1 (Lid): 1.75" - Convolute / Layer 2 (Base): 0.75" - Pad / Layer 3 (Base): 2.50" - Pick N Pluck / Layer 4 (Base): 2.50" - Pick N Pluck

https://www.pelican.com/us/en/product/c ... ector/1550
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by TL1000RSquid » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:10 pm

ncjw wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:07 pm
1. Please provide the links or model numbers for those cool Pelican and Pelican clone cases discussed above.

2. One of the most interesting things that I ever learned was that the planets do NOT orbit the Sun. They orbit the center of gravity of the solar system. Depending on where they and the Sun are, it might be within the volume of the Sun, but more often than not they orbit a point in space outside of the Sun.

This is a really handy example of "everybody knows" XYZ. Just counter, well, everyone knows that the planets orbit the Sun, but they don't.
Apache 3800 from Harbor Freight. I got them around black friday/cyber monday last year they were on sale and had online free ship code making them around $30 each. They include the pluckable foam inserts, after cutting the foam I used the Krylon plasticoat spray paint on the foam to make it more tear resistant.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:25 am

TL1000RSquid wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:10 pm
ncjw wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:07 pm
1. Please provide the links or model numbers for those cool Pelican and Pelican clone cases discussed above.

2. One of the most interesting things that I ever learned was that the planets do NOT orbit the Sun. They orbit the center of gravity of the solar system. Depending on where they and the Sun are, it might be within the volume of the Sun, but more often than not they orbit a point in space outside of the Sun.

This is a really handy example of "everybody knows" XYZ. Just counter, well, everyone knows that the planets orbit the Sun, but they don't.
Apache 3800 from Harbor Freight. I got them around black friday/cyber monday last year they were on sale and had online free ship code making them around $30 each. They include the pluckable foam inserts, after cutting the foam I used the Krylon plasticoat spray paint on the foam to make it more tear resistant.
Those were a steal at that price.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:36 am

ncjw wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:07 pm
2. One of the most interesting things that I ever learned was that the planets do NOT orbit the Sun. They orbit the center of gravity of the solar system. Depending on where they and the Sun are, it might be within the volume of the Sun, but more often than not they orbit a point in space outside of the Sun.

This is a really handy example of "everybody knows" XYZ. Just counter, well, everyone knows that the planets orbit the Sun, but they don't.
You are referring to the barycenter of the solar system. The end result of multiple planets exerting gravitational force on the sun causing somewhat minor star wobble (depending on the location and alignment of the planets). For the Earth (only planet known to have life on it), the barycenter of the solar system is almost always right next to the sun’s core. For Jupiter, it might be slightly outside of the surface of the sun. However, for all practical purposes, the object with the largest mass in the solar system (by far) is the sun...and all of the inner planets are most certainly orbiting around it as their barycenters are very close to the sun’s core.

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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by ncjw » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:03 am

Yes, but the combined barycenters of the solar system result in the barycenter of the total to be outside of the Sun's surface more than it is inside of it due to Jupiter and Saturn having such a large influence. For the point above, I guess that it doesn't really matter whether the barycenter is inside the surface or not, the main point is still that the planets orbit the center of mass, not the Sun.
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Post by Lgaam » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:25 pm

So, worst case scenario, if everything lines up, we're potentially hurtling through space at up to 1,025,000 mph, not counting rotational velocity at the surface of the earth.

On the other hand, we could momentarily be at a galactic dead stop of only 5,000 mph. Somebody else needs to be motivated enough to break it down into vectors.
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Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:43 pm

I can't wait for the Monty Python segment on this!

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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:42 pm

One topic that hasn’t really been brought up in this thread is the very real possibility of mayhem/rioting in some areas around mid-November. There are a few cities that might be worth avoiding for a couple weeks.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by TL1000RSquid » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:47 pm

Weapon wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:25 am
TL1000RSquid wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:10 pm
ncjw wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:07 pm
1. Please provide the links or model numbers for those cool Pelican and Pelican clone cases discussed above.
Apache 3800 from Harbor Freight. I got them around black friday/cyber monday last year they were on sale and had online free ship code making them around $30 each. They include the pluckable foam inserts, after cutting the foam I used the Krylon plasticoat spray paint on the foam to make it more tear resistant.
Those were a steal at that price.
Yeah good general protection and transport, not sure how waterproof they'd be keep the rain out for sure, I'll have to fill the tub up and toss one in and see if any gets in.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by MadDuner » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:28 pm

Weapon wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:42 pm
One topic that hasn’t really been brought up in this thread is the very real possibility of mayhem/rioting in some areas around mid-November. There are a few cities that might be worth avoiding for a couple weeks.
Antifa has been making noises like they want to take their brand of violence to the next level. They have supposedly been "training" in preparation for the upcoming political rallies and elections. My advice is to position police snipers on the rooftops and demonstrate how much we appreciate their violent threats.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Lgaam » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:35 pm

Weapon wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:42 pm
One topic that hasn’t really been brought up in this thread is the very real possibility of mayhem/rioting in some areas around mid-November. There are a few cities that might be worth avoiding for a couple weeks.
I've started and deleted several posts about this. I grew up around the Miami riots of the 80s. I watched my dad and a couple neighbors patrolling the block because the police couldn't ('81). The bodega 2 blocks away was looted and burned during the Lozano riots ('85?). The rioters were being pushed into the neighborhood to keep them out of the business districts....
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:38 pm

I have noticed that their protests and associated violence are somewhat rare in states with concealed carry or stand your ground laws. I guess they are less apt to whack people over the head with a flagpole in states where they might get gun fire as a response.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by ncjw » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:52 pm

Lgaam wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:35 pm
I've started and deleted several posts about this. I grew up around the Miami riots of the 80s. I watched my dad and a couple neighbors patrolling the block because the police couldn't ('81). The bodega 2 blocks away was looted and burned during the Lozano riots ('85?). The rioters were being pushed into the neighborhood to keep them out of the business districts....
You just had to watch the 1992 LA riots on TV to see that the police are very quickly overwhelmed and you will be on your own.

On the other hand, my guess is that nothing much will happen after the elections.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:56 pm

Lgaam wrote:
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I grew up around the Miami riots of the 80s.
I live in LA (the other LA) during the '65 Watts Riots. Things were very different back then.

But here, after Katrina, things were not very lawful. I wasan't flooded but had to cut my way out of the trees across the roads where I lived. Gun on a hip was the normal. I have friends who set fires in their driveways with long rifles across their laps to stop the people from looting. Prepping is normally done too late. If your don't have it when it happens, it's too late.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:49 am

Bringing this thread back alive.

I think this article is very good and the bug-in test weekend is really a good idea. http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/bug-in- ... d760f110a1

When the storm that ran up the Gulf and split the Mississippi/Alabama state-line last month was approaching I did my generator test; two pulls & it roared to life. :ymapplause:
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:50 pm

Interesting snip from the news:
“A draft executive order on coordinating national resilience to electromagnetic pulse incidents is currently being developed under the auspices of the National Security Council staff in coordination with Federal departments and agencies. Upon issuance, the executive order will obviously inform—and potentially alter—the Department’s approach to the EMP-GMD threat that is articulated in this DHS Strategy.”

Also:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files ... argoed.pdf
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:25 am

Seems like I mentioned that the NASA website will always have something with disaster potential...like the first recorded interstellar object which originated from outside our solar system passing through. This pretty much kills any of their previous claims that they know about all objects that might zip through our neighborhood:

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/482/1 ... -oumuamua/
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by TL1000RSquid » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:54 am

Weapon wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:25 am
Seems like I mentioned that the NASA website will always have something with disaster potential...like the first recorded interstellar object which originated from outside our solar system passing through. This pretty much kills any of their previous claims that they know about all objects that might zip through our neighborhood:

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/482/1 ... -oumuamua/
The budget for tracking stuff is ridiculously small. We get stuff coming at us all the time from our own solar system they never saw coming like the one that got caught on video in russia a couple years ago, its just that most of them dont get seen/caught on video.
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Re: Disaster Preparedness

Post by Weapon » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:32 am

TL1000RSquid wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:54 am
Weapon wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:25 am
Seems like I mentioned that the NASA website will always have something with disaster potential...like the first recorded interstellar object which originated from outside our solar system passing through. This pretty much kills any of their previous claims that they know about all objects that might zip through our neighborhood:

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/482/1 ... -oumuamua/
The budget for tracking stuff is ridiculously small. We get stuff coming at us all the time from our own solar system they never saw coming like the one that got caught on video in russia a couple years ago, its just that most of them dont get seen/caught on video.
Did you notice its speed? 54 miles per second vs. the typical comet or asteroid that moves at about 12 miles per second. We will supposedly never see that one again. Some yahoos at Harvard wrote a paper about it alleging it may have been alien tech. The rest of the scientific community has basically called that notion garbage.
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