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Crosspower
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Re: Disappointed

Post by Crosspower » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:18 am

FrankW wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:48 pm
Have you tried switching barrels between the two guns to compare accuracy. I don’t know how you can judge accuracy shooting offhand. I suggest you shoot from a rest to see the true accuracy of your guns.

Frank
I thought about switching parts around. I haven't though. I did shoot off a table at 29 yards. Not a true rest because I was resting it on the magazine instead of under front of frame. At that distance 4 out of 10 barely hit the bottom of the target. I understand your point, but when you shoot magazine after magazine, 10 rds offhand with identical pistols and consistently one groups around bullseye and other is a foot low there has to be an issue with the pistol. Perhaps after the holidays I'll go out and mix parts around.
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Re: Disappointed

Post by qballbandit » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:18 pm

Good evening,
New to the forum, but must say impressed with the vast array of knowledge and intelligent opinions and viewpoints.
I wanted to add some comments re: the Elite-S, Century Support, and receiving replacement parts - all topics I've read about in this thread.
First, I'm sorry to hear of your issues, runeight. Not to beat a dead horse, but my experience with the Elite is mostly positive. Shoots straight, shoots very comfortably, and very easy to be in control of the gun with regards to muzzle flip, recoil, follow-up's, etc.
I do admit, I did not research far enough into the need for NATO class ammo for the "break in", so started suffering the slide lock back failures. I had misread that 124gr or higher was the preferred break in, but missed the NATO part, so was feeding watered 124gr from Fiocchi, Federal, Winchester. This leads me to two of the subjects mentioned above.
I contacted Century, and Robert Pittman promptly replied back. His first suggestion was to remove the slide, and apply upward pressure on the slide lock levers, to release any tension on the springs. I did try this, and Sunday put 300 rounds of non-NATO ammo through the gun (my NATO order had not yet arrived on the doorstep), and only had one failure to lock back, compared to almost 100% failure the prior week.
When I got home, I saw that Robert replied again, and mentioned that he'd sent me a lighter weight replacement spring/guide rod, which I received today.
Point being, for me anyway, I had quick support, and without asking, had a replacement part sent. Now, admittedly, not sure if the tension I applied to the slide lock levers really was the fix, or coincidentally, the gun is broken in after 500 rounds now, can't say.
I'll try another couple hundred non-NATO rounds and see what happens. If all is good, I'll oil and keep the replacement spring/rod tucked away in the "spare parts" box.
I wish you success with your current mission.

Neil
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Re: Disappointed

Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:21 am

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Re: Disappointed

Post by FreedomFries » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:13 pm

I am a new Canik owner and member to this forum. Perhaps a bit late, but I was wondering if OP's issue has been resolved? Before giving up on the pistol, I would also suggest a trial from a bench rest at 20 yards or so distance. Although the final point of impact fired from bench rest and fired without a rest are sometimes slightly different, it should give you some indication of where the pistol tends to want to impact mechanically as well as whether it consistently impacts in the same area. If it cannot consistently make any sort of group, then your pistol is defective and has an improper lock up, defect with the barrel, or some other mechanical issue.

From the picture you shared on the previous page, it appears the the pistol is capable of grouping even if the results were not as good as your tried and true tungsten colored TP9SF Elite. If further testing shows that the pistol can group consistently but impacts low and right, then you may consider having a gunsmith replace the front sight with a shorter one and drifting it slightly to the right of the original position. This isn't an unusual problem, and I have had to either drift or replace sights on many of my pistols.

If your TP9SF Elite-S is similar to my TP9DA, then the front dovetail has the dimensions cut similarly to an S&W M&P pistol. The height of my Canik TP9DA front sight was about 0.190" above the dovetail (about 0.260" total including the dovetail). The standard M&P9 front sight height is 0.160" above the dovetail (about 0.230" including the dovetail). If you are truly a foot too low, you may need to consider a 0.140" (0.210" total including dovetail) or even lower. Probably will want to take careful measurements of how low the center of your group is and the distance to your gunsmith for a recommendation on front sights change. Ameriglo, Dawson, etc. all make good front sights.
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Re: Disappointed

Post by Crosspower » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:53 am

I appreciate your comments FreedomFries. I haven't done anything with this Elite yet. I believe Frank W also suggested shooting it from a rest as well. I'll do it and post the results.
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Re: Disappointed

Post by Hidden » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:03 am

Could be just a sight issue, swap some parts around. swap barrels first, then slides. range time can be fun AND informative. Don't give up so easy. As you can tell you are going to loose your ass getting rid of it so might as well try and diagnose it. If you could tell Century a little more they may be willing to help. Also it would seem their customer service has gotten better the last year.
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Re: Disappointed

Post by runeight » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:13 pm

qballbandit...

I don’t own the elite, just the SFx. No plans on buying one either. Too many ahead of the elite on my want list.
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