The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

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The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by SSGNDoc » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:27 pm

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Some folks here could be new to firearms. Others I know are not. Many of us who have been around firearms long enough to have seen panic buys and ammo shortages, may have noticed during the last ammo crisis that many of the common calibers were very hard to find. 9mm, .223/5.56, 7.62x39 and .22 LR were bare spots on sporting goods shelves for almost a year (or more, it seems).

Often new shooters ask what the best caliber is for XX? Many recommend the 9mm when it comes to handguns, often citing, that it is super common and you can always find ammo for it.

Well, not when every 9mm owner is trying to stockpile at the same time. More 9mm handguns to feed in the world seems to create a crisis, when there are so many to feed.

Last panic/shortage I noted that some of the less popular calibers remained on shelves longer and came back to shelves sooner than “the most common calibers”. .40 and 10mm and .357 Sig graced the shelves of my local shops. Not cheap, but at the time, once 9mm started returning to shelves, people were paying .40 S&W and .10mm prices for it.

So, I bought a .40 S&W. Then I added a .357 Sig barrel.

For the last few years, as LE agencies have shifted toward 9mm, and .40 seems to have fallen from favor, .40 S&W pistols and ammo have become more reasonable in good times. Finding a used .40 for less than a comparable 9mm had been commonplace. I wonder if that may change for the next few months or years as people see there may be a reason to keep a couple calibers on hand, just because we don’t really know what ammo will still be available.
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Re: The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:38 pm

I'm sticking with basic configs; 9mm, 5.56 and 7.62X39. I just need (want) a PCC carbine. Ruger 9mm chassis with pistol grip and Holosun 510 broken down in a backpack to be able throw it into the truck.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:39 pm

9 is my main caliber and have enough to ride out shortages. How ever for handguns I also have .380, 9mak, .32, .357/38, .45, 10mm, hitting the gun store after the panic i only saw some .32, .357, .45 and 10mm on the shelf.
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Post by zeda3000 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:09 pm

n Turkey Semi Automatic Rifles not allowed for civilian. We can buy any 308 bolt action rifle , but in Urban situations Bolt action is useless. For best combo is 9mm + .410 Bore Ar15 (Bullet Can pass trough from wall , i tried my self) + 12 Gauge (Espacilly Buckshoot more effective than handgrande for multiaple targets)

But best and safe side is always 12 gauge. Cause it is very easy to load 12 gauge at home. No need it any machinery. You can load the shell with pellet , Slug , Buttom , Stone or metal screw. It will work.
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Re: The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by SSGNDoc » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:30 pm

LT USN (Ret.) wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:38 pm
I'm sticking with basic configs; 9mm, 5.56 and 7.62X39. I just need (want) a PCC carbine. Ruger 9mm chassis with pistol grip and Holosun 510 broken down in a backpack to be able throw it into the truck.
Pretty sure you and I have been through an ammo shortage before and learned to always have a good amount of ammo on hand. But for first time or short time gun owners, they may have never considered this as an option.
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Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:35 pm

I start to shake when 9pm on hand drops below 2000 rounds. Spreadsheets are the bomb.
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Post by TacoTyrant » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:44 pm

I made the mistake of letting a guy use my range the other day and he found my ammo and shot a bunch or it, then said “oh I shot about 50 rounds of yours”... mother fucker shot like 300 rounds of my ammo while this ammo shortage bullshit is going on... lesson learned on that shit!
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Post by ncjw » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm

I recall that in one of the past panics, .380 was unobtainium.

And as per the other threads, there is always reloading, but there you have to hoard the primers.
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Post by SSGNDoc » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:32 pm

During the last shortage I had just transferred from GA to WA. The movers the Navy contracts won’t move ammo or powder, primers, etc.

I had a couple GOOD months of range sessions before the move, to deplete my supply to something I could transport, myself with the family, the luggage and the dogs. So, I was starting over practically at a crappy time to be buying ammo.
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Re: The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by SSGNDoc » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:35 pm

ncjw wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm
I recall that in one of the past panics, .380 was unobtainium.

And as per the other threads, there is always reloading, but there you have to hoard the primers.
Right. Around that time, the LCP, the Sig .380, and several other truly pocketable .380s hit the market, and folks were drying the shelves up.

Primers and one pound cans of most popular pistol powders and some of the more common powders for .223 were hard to find.
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Post by Tejas Products » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:04 pm

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Re: The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by Mikebaker1129 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:08 pm

I noticed .357Sig on the shelves during the last panic.
I have a 229 in that caliber as well as a .40 barrel for it. It was a lesson learned .
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Re: The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by TexasJackKin » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:27 am

In my case, the case for ammo diversification, is picking up brass for reloading, there is very little that I can't use myself. The few calibers that I can't use, I pick up for trading stock....
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Post by Lgaam » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:26 pm

The last couple of runs on ammo, I couldn't buy a day off, so I couldn't shoot what I had. It all worked out. This time, I find myself with a bunch of time, but no place to shoot. It'll all work out.

I've got over a case for each caliber in inventory, except .25acp. I'm not looking to add it, the pistol is an inherited piece and is going to sit in the safe for the time being, unless the right offer comes along.
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Re: The case for caliber diversification (Ammo shortages)

Post by Crosspower » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:43 am

I have a 10mm and added a .40 last year. Just wanted to try one out. I'd like to have a .357 Sig barrel for it but haven't seen any for the 2.0 S&Ws yet. I would imagine a lot of revolver calibers would be more available too in a shortage.
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