That firearm in an unpopular/oddball chambering

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That firearm in an unpopular/oddball chambering

Post by Weapon » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:02 am

I have said it several times before but now is a good time to say it again (as it will really stick in your memory)...

While caliber consolidation certainly has some benefits, it is ALWAYS a good idea to have a few firearms chambered for less popular cartridges. That doesn’t mean poor performing - just not whatever is currently popular or the most common.

Amid the current COVID-19 apocalypse scare, it is almost impossible to find:
9mm ammo
5.56/.223 ammo
.308 ammo
.22LR ammo
Small rifle or small pistol primers
5.56 brass
.308 brass

However, I can still find .40 ammo, .40 brass and .40 bullets for cheap. I can still find .243 ammo and 6mm bullets as well as .243 brass and large rifle primers. 20 gauge shells? Yeah - you can find boxes of those too.

While the commonly supported idea is to buy/stockpile a bunch of your more common ammo (9, 5.56, etc), sometimes the panic catches you off guard and you need a fall back plan...

.40 isn’t everyone’s favorite round at the moment but a .40 with a full mag certainly beats a 9mm pistol with no ammo or a sharp stick. police trade in pistols in .40 are still cheap and readily available — the ammo to feed them is as well.

If you don’t mind the lower capacity, a .357mag revolver (legendary stopping power) is also a fine option as even if you cannot find .357 ammo (very rare), you can still use .38 +p or regular .38 special ammo

10mm may not be all that practical most of the time but a 10mm pistol beats just about every other more convenient, more carried caliber in terms of power when comparing on a shot to shot basis...and you can still find ammo for it (including top tier 10mm ammo that’s packing an incredible thump).

If it isn’t the current go-to gun/caliber for most people (or the cool kid crowd who may only own the most common/popular calibers), your odds of finding ammo for it are much better in these situations. If it happens to use large pistol or large rifle primers and there are at least a few less common powders that can be used to load it, that’s even better (if you also load your own ammo).
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Post by ncjw » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:55 am

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Post by LT USN (Ret.) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:20 am

7.62X39 is high at $0.22/round for Wolf. Good thing the SKS is hungry right now.
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Post by Janik » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:24 am

For months I've been talking about adding a .40 to my collection again, and a .357 revolver. Unfortunately that pesky issue of money, or lack there of gets in the way. Kinda regretting now I dragged my feet. Fortunately I'm sitting ok on ammo supply, but there's no such thing as "too much". I'll be able to make some range trips for awhile, but the lack of 9mm availability hurts my practice for getting into competition shooting this year.
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Post by ncjw » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:06 am

Janik wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:24 am
For months I've been talking about adding a .40 to my collection again, and a .357 revolver. Unfortunately that pesky issue of money, or lack there of gets in the way. Kinda regretting now I dragged my feet. Fortunately I'm sitting ok on ammo supply, but there's no such thing as "too much". I'll be able to make some range trips for awhile, but the lack of 9mm availability hurts my practice for getting into competition shooting this year.
The last time that there as a severe shortage, you could get all of the .38 special that you wanted for cheap. Sure, it's old fashioned but you can still practice and have fun with it.

Also, I have a feeling that most of the folks on this forum have enough muscle memory from years of practice that a few months of not shooting will not affect anything if a real world shooting need arises. We will all experience varying degrees of withdrawal, but we will all remain functional.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:06 am

I was at Academy thursday night I believe, still had .22, 308, 243, 38, 357, 30 carbine, 30-06, 762x54, 7.62x25 and a small amount of .45, 10mm, 5.45 and i think some hornady 357 sig.

I've got pistols in 38/357, 22, 45acp, 10mm, 7.62x25, 7.65 covered and 9mm mak which they were out of but could probably find elsewhere.

rifles 308, 7.62x54, 30-06, 5.45, 30 carbine got all those too.

Maybe I need a .460, 9x25 or .50gi conversion for G21 and to start reloading.
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Post by Weapon » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:19 am

My local academy was just about bare ammo shelves - no 9, no 5.56, no .22. They had some .300 win mag and .30-06 left. lol

The new bill in the house isn’t going to help. I don’t think they have any chance of passing it but HR 5717 is the most horrific piece of garbage legislation they have tried to sneak through in years if not the worst ever
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Post by gunn » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:14 pm

ncjw wrote:
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Post by SaWuttae » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:42 pm

Now that I have my Tp9sfx I wouldn't mind trading my Steyr m9a1 for the 40cal version for a little bit of options.
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Post by SSGNDoc » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:40 pm

During the last panic buying spree, I had recently transferred across country and my ammo stock was low. 9mm and .22 were hard to find. I could find some .40 and .357 Sig.

I added a M&P .40 and a .357 Sig barrel. Springs and mags are shared, which simplified things. Ammo wasn’t cheap, but I could find it.
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Re: That firearm in an unpopular/oddball chambering

Post by Weapon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:13 pm

SSGNDoc wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:40 pm
During the last panic buying spree, I had recently transferred across country and my ammo stock was low. 9mm and .22 were hard to find. I could find some .40 and .357 Sig.

I added a M&P .40 and a .357 Sig barrel. Springs and mags are shared, which simplified things. Ammo wasn’t cheap, but I could find it.
Exactly. 9mm and .45 ammo will be long gone but there will always be some slightly less common ammo still available. One that caught me off guard earlier this week was .300 blackout. The local places are completely out of 5.56 but they have cases of .300blk left in stock at normal prices. Based on the price gouging I saw online for 5.56 ammo ($900 for 840 rounds and the like), the math was easy. You can build a .300 blk upper or convert an existing upper to .300blk and buy a decent supply of .300blk for far less than the current price of 1000 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Perfect excuse to build another upper. :lol:

Many people have an odd way of looking at this. They think that the most common calibers will always be easy to find. You even see that claim made in many articles and videos about extreme crisis/SHTF/WROL. Comments such as "I will always be able to find it because everyone has it so I can pick it up somewhere..." Nope. Everyone may have it but everyone also still wants it and will be using it up. Massive demand = zero availability unless you are willing to get scalped to get it.

On the bright side, if you are lucky enough to see it coming and can catch it on the front end, you can often still find some deals on ammo and components so long as they are not the most popular. When I was looking for 9mm bullets right as this started, I came across a hella deal on .40 brass - 500 pieces once fired and polished for $25 with free shipping. The .40 that everyone usually bashes on looks great in these situations. Deals may still be available now if you are shopping for the right ammo or components.

side note: expect a demand and price bump on guns and ammo within the next three weeks. COVID-19 stimulus deposits will be made within the next 3-5 weeks and tons of people are already saying their deposit is going to guns, ammo or both. If you can find it now and buy it now, now is likely the time to jump on it. I hate sounding like a prophet of doom but almost every shred of info on this pandemic says it is going to get much worse before it gets better. If nothing else, media hype will continue to keep lots of people in panic mode -- the media loves a good crisis as it gives them something to yap about for weeks and shocking clickbait headlines.
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Re: That firearm in an unpopular/oddball chambering

Post by ncjw » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:33 pm

SSGNDoc wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:40 pm
I added a M&P .40 and a .357 Sig barrel. Springs and mags are shared, which simplified things. Ammo wasn’t cheap, but I could find it.

Ha! Thanks for the reminder. I have a .400 Corbon barrel around here somewhere. Still available, still a dang $1 a round standard price.
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Post by TL1000RSquid » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:48 pm

Weapon wrote:
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Exactly. 9mm and .45 ammo will be long gone but there will always be some slightly less common ammo still available. One that caught me off guard earlier this week was .300 blackout. The local places are completely out of 5.56 but they have cases of .300blk left in stock at normal prices. Based on the price gouging I saw online for 5.56 ammo ($900 for 840 rounds and the like), the math was easy. You can build a .300 blk upper or convert an existing upper to .300blk and buy a decent supply of .300blk for far less than the current price of 1000 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Perfect excuse to build another upper. :lol:
Its a nice round and it suppresses real well. My current main .300 setup is a 10.5 from PSA, NiB Toolcraft BCG, 1800lm light, with vortex spitfire dot its been flawless.
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Post by Weapon » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:36 pm

If anyone needs 9mm bullets for reloading, Everglades has some 124gr FMJ back in stock:
https://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/ ... llets.html
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Post by grammontS » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:20 pm

I found a supplier on gunbroker out of Pennsylvania , they have tons of ammo on gunbroker up in the auction. This week I've bought 1000 rounds of 9mm , 5000 rds of .22 , and 200 rds of .223 from them on there. Prices are obviously determined by who's paying attention at the right time.
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