Been pretty boring around here so figured I'd post up a thread to see what people are seeing regarding ammo availability and what you are passing on. I've actually been passing on quite a bit lately. Seeing a good amount of 9mm and other calibers here and there. Nothing super exciting but it's briefly on shelves at least. Prices are still in the silly realm though. Some 9mm hasn't been too bad at close to $20/box though.

On the road for work, I stopped in Sportsman's Warehouse today in Harrisburg, PA. They actually had 9mm last night but it was gone today. I did almost walk out with some Speer Gold Dot 5.7x28. You don't find 5.7 that often pre-plandemic and I rarely see the Speer on the shelves. But, at $59/box it was a tough call. $1.20/rd for rounds I really wouldn't ever shoot turned out to be a bit much. Walked around for 15 minutes and then decided that I could better spend the money somewhere else.

So, what ammo are you all seeing out there and what is your threshold for not buying?

This:



...shows that he ammo shortage will not be over anytime soon. How many are new owners is unknown, they are probably driving the largest part of the buying spree. We multiple gun owners are probably still buying guns, but why buy more is there is no ammo?

The number of gun owners is what is matters in the future, not the number of guns, there are plenty of guns.

Joe the Pretender has surpassed Obama as the world's greatest gun salesman.

In any case, I am not buying at these prices and until they come back down, I am shooting my "hoard" very sparingly. Without knowing when it will be over, I have no way of knowing at what rate to shoot.

I would not be surprised if Biden's puppet masters either make mail order ammo illegal or "encourage" Visa and MC to shut off all ammo companies.

We shall see.

I doubt I'll be buying ammo any time soon. Fortunately, I had stashed away enough components to keep me reloading for a while, and I prefer my reloads to most commercial loads. I do like seeing some of us more experienced shooters working among ourselves with regard to buying, selling and trading components and sometimes ammo at pre-pandemic prices. I just got 100 7mm Rem Mag cases and a Hornady Die set for about $50 shipped, which I thought was fair. I've seen other deals as well. Good for us to be looking out for each other. I have nothing but contempt for those opportunists taking advantage of the situation to try to make absurd profits. I have a couple of boxes of white Winchester in .40 and 9mm I bought at Walmart before they stopped selling it, and I think that's the last ammo I bought.

I have also watched some of the videos with ammo company execs purporting to show how their finished goods shelves are empty and that they are running three shifts. However, I don't see them actually on the factory floor with rounds spitting out of loaders. Now some of this may due to protecting intellectual property, but other ammo guys did it pre-panic.

Doesn't prove that they aren't, but from everyone that I have talked to at LGS's, they say that the manufacturers are charging $700/case and they are not making much, especially since they aren't getting nearly as much as they used to. So where is it going?

I imagine that there is an MBA formula somewhere that optimizes profit margin vs unit demand in a panic where if you keep the supply at a certain level, you can really jack up profits and keep the panic going. This lasts until someone in the very small industry breaks and makes a lot of ammo to try and beat the inevitable return to normalcy. We shall see.

So just ignore what I posted a week ago, my itchy trigger finger won out and I went to the range (with steel) and went through about 350 rounds.

Tested some P80 mods (which, surprisingly, given my tinkering abilities, went well) and then shot the Elite, which hasn't been to the range in a year, poor soul. The Elite remained 100% boringly reliable and accurate.

But it was half as fun as it used to be because you are always aware that your hoard is dwindling with little hope of being refreshed anytime soon.

The Elite remained 100% boringly reliable and accurate.
My Elite is definitely accurate, more so since I installed the Romeo Zero red dot sight, not boringly so but comfortingly so.
I continue to restock what I consume on my home range, keeping my skills sharp. Things are sure not getting any better in this country.

So I am on notify with Target sports USA whenever 9mm comes in. I am getting 2-5 emails a day that stock is rolling in, even speer 124 and PMC 115 and a few other blasting types.

They are still $600-700 per case, but at least they are showing up. Unless you are text alert or check your email every minute, they are gone in no time. But at least they exist, which they haven't for months. Same with Lucky Gunner and Pepper.

So either more is coming out or people decided to buy food instead of horribly overpriced ammo.

I MIGHT start buying at $300, but even then it will be a ripoff.

I bought 100 rounds of 9mm last year at roughly 80¢/round. It was 124gr +p and 147gr hollowpoint defensive ammo. That was online from Target Sports. I'm waiting for practice rounds to come down below 40¢ before I'll give it any consideration. Even then, I won't be "stocking up", but may consider a box or 2.

Bought some 5.56 recently at roughly too much per round(similar to the 9mm), but only a few small boxes.

I'm seeing a little bit more showing up online, but prices are still pretty high. I don't have time to hit all the local stores that may or may not be getting ammo often enough to find anything. So far, I've only seen 410 and 20 gauge, and 307 Winchester, whatever that is, on shelves.

Almost went for an 800 round brick of 22 @10¢/round, but it went OOS, before I could.

I'll buy a little bit if I see it, but it depends on my mood, my wallet, and the selection. I've significantly reduced my shooting. I don't want to quit.

Just saw wolf steel case at Target USA for $560/case. That's the first I've seen it break $600, so I hope that is a good omen.

All gone now.

$490 today, prices are dropping!

As of this second, still in stock.

I ordered some ammo this morning. 44¢/Rd for brass case 9mm and 9¢/Rd for 22. Still steep but getting better.

Found some Federal .22LR 325-count 'Automatch' packs at my local Wal Mart at lunch today... ~$18/box.
Not great, but it's the best I've seen so far. Picked up a couple of boxes.

You can order directly from Federal. That's where I ordered from today. 800 round brick of federal 22lr and a couple 100 round box's of federal ae 9mm.

Got 4 box's of Blazer 230gr .45 for about $30 a box at Academy. Need to test out PF45 P80 build as soon as the rest of my parts get here.

Please let me know how the P80 45 build goes. Mine isn't quite there yet, still needs a lot of tuning.

Hasn't been as smooth as the 9mm's.

Good luck!

ncjw wrote: ↑ Thu May 27, 2021 8:31 pm Please let me know how the P80 45 build goes. Mine isn't quite there yet, still needs a lot of tuning.

Hasn't been as smooth as the 9mm's.

Good luck!

Will do, what kind of issues you running into?

Mostly failure to return to battery.

BTW, check out the Marine Gun Builder. Some major fitting is usually needed on the rear rails and trigger housing.

Once tuned up, it should be a very good value for a RMR equipped and railed .45.

Check out the new rounds from Belom at TSUSA:

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/belom-9 ... 10878.aspx

$500, not a bad price. Great reviews. But wait a minute, how come almost all of the 5 star reviews in the last few days all seem to have the same odd nomenclature: "Good quality .9mm ammunition made by Belom." Unless I missed something and it is suddenly fashionable to put a dot before the 9 in 9mm, one person may be making a lot of 5 star posts under different names!

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you, that this might be happening!...

Natches is advertising CCI Blazer Brass 115's on sale for $549 and free shipping. That's a full case of 1000. Use code FS210528. Happy Shopping!

ncjw wrote: ↑ Fri May 28, 2021 8:54 am Check out the new rounds from Belom at TSUSA:

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/belom-9 ... 10878.aspx

$500, not a bad price. Great reviews. But wait a minute, how come almost all of the 5 star reviews in the last few days all seem to have the same odd nomenclature: "Good quality .9mm ammunition made by Belom." Unless I missed something and it is suddenly fashionable to put a dot before the 9 in 9mm, one person may be making a lot of 5 star posts under different names!

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you, that this might be happening!...

The star ratings are quite comical too. One "person" has good comments but 3 stars for all categories. Another give 5 stars for Performance and Value but 1 star for Quality