- Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:58 am
#37741
Like THIS comparison isn't all over the internet! I have owned the Q5 for close to 2 years. I have found it to have the best striker trigger I'd ever felt. It is very accurate and reliable. It is also versatile. I have grown to really like the Q5. Among my list of custom services is one where I take a particular 1911 and modify it through polishing, refitting, tightening, and replacing a small part or two. The finished product is more accurate and has a better trigger than a Sig P210 Target. I am no stranger to good triggers. The Q5 was the best of its kind that I had felt.
Weeks and weeks ago, I purchased a Canik TP9SFX more out of curiosity than anything. Here is what I have found:
TRIGGER: The Canik is slightly more crisp and is about 1 lb lighter. My Canik's trigger is clean, smooth, and breaks at close to 4 3/8 lbs. My Q5 is clean, smooth, but is not quite as crisp and it breaks at close to 5 1/4 lbs. Winner CANIK
ERGONOMICS: Both are very good, I seem to prefer the grip of the Q5 a little bit (due to a slight palm swell), but this is subjective. Versatility is high with both. I've shot the Canik so much lately that when I picked up my Q5 earlier IT felt a little "off", which it's not, it just demonstrates that it's a personal thing and it's what you're used to. The mag release is adjustable in size on the Canik which is a plus. The Q5 has it's ambedextrous paddle release and that's a plus. TIE
RELIABILITY: I haven't had trouble with either one of them and I've used many different loads. TIE
MATERIALS: Walther has built guns for so long one would assume that their chosen materials for each application would be excellent. Canik is an Aerospace company that also makes handguns. They should have some of the most advanced insight in existence concerning Materials Engineering. I have randomly tested the steel frame rails, the slide, and firing mechanism parts. The Canik parts across the board are a little bit harder. I tested a Canik sear by beating the crap out of it with a big hammer on an anvil. No breakage. Obviously not brittle. I guess I'll for now at least call it a TIE
GROUPING CAPABILITY AT 25 YDS: When I use the pistols with red dots and shoot groups while rested, one has been as good as the other. 10 shot groups are under 2" consistently with some groups getting down VERY close to 1". They both will do it. To get a more precise set of measurements would require a Ransom Machine Rest which I have, but I lack the inserts to test these pistols. Upon examination with a magnifying bore scope, I will state that the Canik has one of the best finished barrels I have ever seen at any price. The finish reminds me of the $300+ match barrels I install in 1911 Match Pistols. Until I get some grip inserts made, I have to call it a TIE
RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX: The Q5 has an advantage only because it has a fully adjustable rear sight. Looking to use a red dot anyway? Then I give Canik the nod because it comes with 4 different plates for red dots. Walther used to, but they don't do that anymore. You have to get the plate you need from them. Canik does offer a package deal where the pistol is equipped with a Vortex Venom and it still costs less than a Q5 with no red dot and no mounting plates. Winner CANIK
HANDLING WHILE FIRING: I really couldn't tell much, if any difference. The Canik is more or less a PPQ "clone-like" pistol. They are too much alike to handle firing differently. TIE
SO, we have 2 CANIK wins and 5 TIES, 1 tie is subjective (ergonomics) and 1 tie needs more advanced research (grouping capability). I think it's safe to say the Canik TP9SFX is at least as good as anything at $1K and under. That's amazing.
Weeks and weeks ago, I purchased a Canik TP9SFX more out of curiosity than anything. Here is what I have found:
TRIGGER: The Canik is slightly more crisp and is about 1 lb lighter. My Canik's trigger is clean, smooth, and breaks at close to 4 3/8 lbs. My Q5 is clean, smooth, but is not quite as crisp and it breaks at close to 5 1/4 lbs. Winner CANIK
ERGONOMICS: Both are very good, I seem to prefer the grip of the Q5 a little bit (due to a slight palm swell), but this is subjective. Versatility is high with both. I've shot the Canik so much lately that when I picked up my Q5 earlier IT felt a little "off", which it's not, it just demonstrates that it's a personal thing and it's what you're used to. The mag release is adjustable in size on the Canik which is a plus. The Q5 has it's ambedextrous paddle release and that's a plus. TIE
RELIABILITY: I haven't had trouble with either one of them and I've used many different loads. TIE
MATERIALS: Walther has built guns for so long one would assume that their chosen materials for each application would be excellent. Canik is an Aerospace company that also makes handguns. They should have some of the most advanced insight in existence concerning Materials Engineering. I have randomly tested the steel frame rails, the slide, and firing mechanism parts. The Canik parts across the board are a little bit harder. I tested a Canik sear by beating the crap out of it with a big hammer on an anvil. No breakage. Obviously not brittle. I guess I'll for now at least call it a TIE
GROUPING CAPABILITY AT 25 YDS: When I use the pistols with red dots and shoot groups while rested, one has been as good as the other. 10 shot groups are under 2" consistently with some groups getting down VERY close to 1". They both will do it. To get a more precise set of measurements would require a Ransom Machine Rest which I have, but I lack the inserts to test these pistols. Upon examination with a magnifying bore scope, I will state that the Canik has one of the best finished barrels I have ever seen at any price. The finish reminds me of the $300+ match barrels I install in 1911 Match Pistols. Until I get some grip inserts made, I have to call it a TIE
RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX: The Q5 has an advantage only because it has a fully adjustable rear sight. Looking to use a red dot anyway? Then I give Canik the nod because it comes with 4 different plates for red dots. Walther used to, but they don't do that anymore. You have to get the plate you need from them. Canik does offer a package deal where the pistol is equipped with a Vortex Venom and it still costs less than a Q5 with no red dot and no mounting plates. Winner CANIK
HANDLING WHILE FIRING: I really couldn't tell much, if any difference. The Canik is more or less a PPQ "clone-like" pistol. They are too much alike to handle firing differently. TIE
SO, we have 2 CANIK wins and 5 TIES, 1 tie is subjective (ergonomics) and 1 tie needs more advanced research (grouping capability). I think it's safe to say the Canik TP9SFX is at least as good as anything at $1K and under. That's amazing.